Here are some more jokes

     My college classmate Nancy Fudge says, “You don’t stop laughing because you grow old. You grow old because you stop laughing! Take heed and pass these along to people who need a laugh. I thought you would enjoy this….times are tough right now…for all of us….so we need something to make the day a happy place. ‘They’ haven’t found a way to tax you for laughing yet.”

     A wedding joke:  Attending a wedding for the first time, a little girl whispered to her mother, ‘Why is the bride dressed in white?’’  The mother replied, ‘Because white is the color of happiness, and today is the happiest day of her life.’  The child thought about this for a moment then said, ‘So why is the groom wearing black?’

     A Sunday joke:  A little girl, dressed in her Sunday best, was running as fast as she could, trying not to be late for Bible class. As she ran she prayed, ‘Dear Lord, please don’t let me be late! Dear Lord, please don’t let me be late!’  While she was running and praying, she tripped on a curb and fell, getting her clothes dirty and tearing her dress.  She got up, brushed herself off, and started running again! As she ran she once again began to pray, ‘Dear Lord, please don’t let me be late…But please don’t shove me either!’

     A funeral joke:  An elderly woman died last month. Having never married, she requested no male pallbearers. In her handwritten instructions for her memorial service, she wrote, ‘They wouldn’t take me out while I was alive, I don’t want them to take me out when I’m dead.’

     A police joke:  A police recruit was asked during the exam, ‘What would you do if you had to arrest your own mother?’ He answered, ‘Call for backup.’

     A Sunday school joke:  At Sunday School they were teaching how God created everything, including human beings.. Little Johnny seemed especially intent when they told him how Eve was created out of one of Adam’s ribs.  Later in the week his mother noticed him lying down as though he was ill, and she said, ‘Johnny, what is the matter?’ Little Johnny responded, ‘I have pain in my side. I think I’m going to have a wife.’

     An after Sunday school joke:  Two boys were walking home from Sunday school after hearing a strong preaching on the devil. One said to the other, ‘What do you think about all this Satan stuff?’   The other boy replied, ‘Well, you know how Santa Claus turned out. It’s probably just your Dad.’

monthly meditation for December

     NOTE:  Here is the monthly meditation from the Dec., 2009, issue of Biblical Homeschooling ( biblicalhomeschooling-subscribe@yahoogroups.com or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biblicalhomeschooling ).

Monthly Meditation

1. FROM THE YOUTH UP

by Wayne S. Walker

     “For You are my hope, O Lord GOD; You are my trust from my youth” (Psalm 71:5).  Youth is a time of growing and learning the skills, both physical and mental, that will be needed for life as an adult.  The purpose of life here on this earth is to fear God and keep His commandments (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14).  Therefore, one of the reasons that God gave children parents is so that the parents can train the children in the way that they should go (Proverbs 22:6).  The primary goal of this training should be that children will look to God as their trust from their youth.   Whatever else may be said about the “rich, young ruler,” Jesus gave no criticism or condemnation when the young man said, “All these things I have kept from my youth,” but rather “looking at him, loved him” (Mark 10:20-21).

     Parents are told to take the words of God, especially about loving Him with all our heart, soul, and strength, and “teach them diligently to your children” (Deuteronomy 6:4-7).  Parents need to act in such a way that they will encourage their children to “Remember now your Creator in the days of your youth” (Ecclesiastes 12:1).  There is nothing so wretched as a child whose parents have lovingly taught him God’s word, taken him faithfully to church services, and provided a wonderful example of godliness, but who grows up to say, “My parents crammed their religion down my throat, and I don’t want to have anything to do with it!”  That is the height of ingratitude.

     Of course, not all people have had the privilege of being raised in homes where they have been taught God’s word.  However, many great men and women have overcome such spiritual handicaps.  Each individual simply must start where he is and come to the Lord from there.  However, living for Christ and serving Him are in many respects much easier when one has been taught to do so in youth by parents because there are far fewer regrets later in life.  Parents, we have an obligation to bring our children up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord (Ephesians 6:4).  And when children obey the Lord, they in turn honor righteous parents (Ephesians 6:2).  God is pleased and glorified when children learn to trust Him from the youth .

Would you like a good joke?

     Three boys are in the school yard bragging about their fathers. The first boy says, ‘My Dad scribbles a few words on a piece of paper, he calls it a poem, they give him $50.’   The second boy says, ‘That’s nothing. My Dad scribbles a few words on piece of paper, he calls it a song, and they give him $100.’  The third boy says, ‘I got you both beat. My Dad scribbles a few words on a piece of paper, he calls it a sermon, and it takes eight people to collect all the money!’

     And another one?:  A Sunday school teacher asked her class why Joseph and Mary took Jesus with them to Jerusalem. A small child replied, ‘They couldn’t get a baby-sitter.’

     And one more?:  Sunday school teacher was discussing the Ten Commandments with her five and six year olds. After explaining the commandment to ‘Honor thy father and thy mother,’ she asked, ‘Is there a commandment that teaches us how to treat our brothers and sisters?’ Without missing a beat, one little boy answered, ‘Thou shall not kill.’

good reading

      The Nov./Dec. issue of No Greater Joy ( www.nogreaterjoy.org ) has articles by Michael and Debi Pearl, and their annual calendar; you may not always agree with the Pearls, especially when they discuss what might be considered “doctrinal” issues, but there is usually something helpful in each issue.  The Sept./Oct., 2009, issue of Home Educator’s Family Times ( www.HomeEducator.com/FamilyTimes ) has an excerpt from Linda Dobson’s book The First Year of Homeschooling Your Child and other homeschool-related articles by Naomi Aldort on expectations, L. A. Crothers on the philosophy of art, exceptional children by Ann Lloyd, Theodore Roosevelt’s letters by Barb Frank, voluntarily submitting information to the government by Deborah Stevenson, preparing for college by Shirley M. R. Minster, and the recent homeschool ruling in New Hampshire by Paul Viggiano, among others.

Simmons School, Hope, IN

Simmons School, Hope, IN

     The documented history of the Simmons School, originally located in Hawcreek Twp., Bartholomew Co. IN, is sketchy.  From county records it was determined that the original site, located 4 miles northwest of Hope, was deeded to the county as a school section in 1837 by John and Nancy Drake.  The first structure built on this section was a log school.  It was replaced by a brick structure that was later remodeled by adding an entrance room and bell tower.  An architectural survey of Bartholomew County done in 1979 related that the current structure was built around 1879.  The school was used until 1907 when all the students of the township were sent to Hawcreek Central School.   After its closing, the building was used for a variety of purposes.  Fred Simmons, whose family owned the land for a while, remembers the family’s home burning and the family had to move into the chool.  He related that other families also lived for brief periods in the schoolhouse.  The building was later used for farm purposes, for cleaning tomatoes being prepared for market and the canning factory in Hope, for a storage shed for tools, and even for grain storage. When the Hauser Historians were asked to investigate the existing one room schools of the area to help select the one to relocate to the educational complex, they fell in love with the badly deteriorating Simmons School.  All windows had been broken.  Chalkboards were gone, as was most of the plaster and woodwork.  The floor had caved in, and there were cracks in the back wall large enough for a person to stick his arm through. The bell tower was intact, but the bell was missing.  Once restoration was underway, the Simmons Family donated the original bell to the schoolhouse.  The building now sits on the campus of Hauser Jr.-Sr. High School of the Flat Rock-Hawcreek School Corporation, 9273 N. State Road 9, in Hope, IN.

     Imprimus is a wonderful free monthly publication of Hillsdale College (www.hillsdale.edu ); it is not about homeschooling, but it contains speeches made by some of the leading conservative thinkers of our time that would be excellent resources to go with “social studies” curricula for homeschoolers.  The Oct., 2009, issue contains a speech by John Bolton, former Undersecretary of State and U. S. Representative to the United Nations, about Barack Obama as the “first post-American president.”  He said, “More broadly, the Obama administration believes that its predecessor didn’t negotiate enough on issues like the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.  The president has said repeatedly—starting with his Inaugural Address—that the United States must hold out its hand to countries like North Korea and Iran in the hopes that they will unclench their fist and enter into negotiation.  This reflects a curious view of history, since in fact the Bush administration negotiated directly or indirectly with Iran and North Korea for six-and-a-half years.  But more importantly, it reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of negotiation.  Negotiation is not a policy.  It is a technique.  It is a way of achieving our objectives.  It doesn’t tell us what the objectives are.  The emphasis on negotiation as an end in itself reflects a shallowness in this administration’s approach to international affairs, and gives us little confidence that our interests will be well served.”  Concerning North Korea, he said, “The North Koreans have been very successful over the years in using negotiations to leverage economic and political concessions.  They’ve even been happy to pledge to give up nuclear weapons—five times by my count, over the past 18 years.  But of course they never carry through.”  The concerning Iran he said, “Indeed, there is now at least anecdotal evidence that the regime in Tehran saw the Obama administration as so eager for negotiations that it would overlook any harsh steps Iran might take internally.  So in response to the administration’s friendly overtures, the mullahs in Tehran conducted a grossly fraudulent presidential election on June 12 and have spent the subsequent months repressing their opponents.”  My opinion is that, while Bolton does not make this comparison, I would think that the West would learn from the attempt to appease Hitler that you simply cannot "negotiate" with evil.  Students studying American history and government need to get this perspective that they would probably never get in public schools.

Home School Enrichment Magazine

     The Nov./Dec., 2009, issue of this wonderful bi-monthly magazine ( www.HomeSchoolEnrichment.com ) has a number of really good articles, such as Naomi Musch’s “Remembering the Cost of Homeschooling” (she says of remembering the spiritual cost, “We are not exclusionists, nor do we have the idea that we will somehow shield our kids from all the evils of the world, but we believe we can best battle those evils from our own home fronts”—AMEN!); Part 2 of Marvin G. Baker’s “Raising a Creative Child;” “29 Wonderful Books to Enjoy with Your Family This Holiday Season;”  Hal and Melanie Young’s “Who’s His Hero?”; articles by homeschool graduates such as Jonathan Lewis’s “Thankful for Homeschooling” (he says, “Some have suggested that homeschooling is a regressive movement because we seek to keep education centered around the nucleus of the traditional family rather than accepting the progression toward a more complex society.  Home Education, they suggest, is reminiscent of more primitive, less organized cultures.  Those of us who embrace homeschooling are either reluctant to give up the past and move into the modern age or are trying to reclaim something that has slipped away.  Although I disagree that homeschooling is regressive, I do agree that we’re trying to reclaim something.  We’re trying to reclaim our families, our spirit of togetherness, and our traditional values.  We’re trying to reassemble the fragments of a society splintered into a thousand pieces through the breakdown of he basic family unit.  Yes, we’re trying to reclaim something.  Some things are worth reclaiming because they have great value and never should have been lost in the first place” (again, AMEN!), and Felicia Alvarez’s “Grandma’s Time;” Hannah Glenn’s “The Makings of a Homeschooler;” Melanie Hexter’s “Evaluating the Options: Support Groups, Co-ops, and More;” Christine Field’s new “Homeschool Legal Minute” column on “Basics for Record Keeping;” and “Mom Time With Kari” Lewis on “The Lesson of the Ivory Brooch;” among others.

Jaycee Dugard–Homeschool Mom?

        Our friend Cathy Mullins sent me this item, saying, “And check this out!  Got it from the Imperfect Homeschooler.”  If the name “Jaycee Dugard” sounds familiar to you, it’s because it was all over the news a while back when Jaycee was found and rescued 18 years after being kidnapped when she was 11 years old.  Her kidnapper, a convicted sex offender, held her hostage all those years and also fathered two children by her. They are now 11 and 15 years old; they grew up believing Jaycee was their sister, not knowing she was actually their mother.  But according to the British press, she was also their teacher:  Jaycee’s strength and determination to care for her daughters as best she could has filled the family with admiration.  Both Angel and Starlit appear to have been educated solely by their mother – who herself never made it past the fifth grade.  Yet recent tests show Angel, 15, functioning close to the level of a high school senior – that is, a higher level than Jaycee was at when she was abducted.  Both girls are now receiving tutoring at the northern California home.  Now that’s what I call successfully homeschooling in adverse conditions, and it’s just more proof that homeschooling works.

Aggression in the campaign to destroy marriage

AGGRESSION IN THE CAMPAIGN TO DESTROY MARRIAGE

by Laurie Higgins, Division of School Advocacy Director -Illinois Family Institute

     Those of us who have occasion to visit the blogs of homosexual activists are fully aware of the poisonous vitriol posted in the comments section against anyone who dares to challenge their increasingly aggressive dogma regarding the nature and morality of homosexuality.

     It is commonplace to read epithetic language, profane language, obscene language, and threats of violence. Their targets include but are not limited to Tony Perkins, James Dobson, Maggie Gallagher, Robert George, Robert Gagnon, Sandy Rios, Peter LaBarbera, Matt Barber, Linda Harvey, and me. We also receive obscene and threatening emails and voicemails.

     Many of those who comment on homosexual blogs will ridicule, bully, and threaten virtually anyone who dares to suggest that homosexuality is not ontologically equivalent to race; that disapproval of volitional homosexual acts is not equivalent to racism; or that society ought not legalize same sex unions. Make these claims publicly and be prepared to be verbally eviscerated–all in the name of tolerance, of course.

     On Monday, following the Maine referendum that preserved marriage in Maine against yet another assault, Liberty Counsel issued the following press release which exposes the nefarious underbelly of the homosexual activist movement–the side that the media apparently deems non-newsworthy:

     Gay" Activists Mull "Organized Terrorism" Against Christians: Pro-Family Leaders Targets of Death Threats

     Lynchburg, VA – In the wake of the horrific act of Islamic domestic terrorism at Fort Hood Texas, it has been learned that militant homosexual activists recently made similar online postings to those of Nidal Malik Hasan, threatening additional acts of terrorism against Christians.

     In response to Maine’s natural marriage victory last Tuesday, "gay" activists have directly threatened to retaliate with "terrorism" and the "killing" of Christians on the popular homosexual activist "JoeMyGod" Weblog. Liberty Counsel notified the FBI which is investigating the matter. As of this morning, the offending blog entry had been removed. (captured version of post will be available at http://www.americansfortruth.com).

     Matt Barber, Liberty Counsel’s Director of Cultural Affairs, issued a statement shortly after Maine’s marriage victory (posted with additional commentary at AmericansForTruth.com). In reaction to that statement, blog poster "ColdCountry" wrote: "Will someone please give me a gun?" Poster "Fritz" warned: "What I fear is that once gay and lesbian people give up hope of achieving equality through nonviolent means, there will be radicals who will begin to hunt down haters… All it will take is a small group of radical zealots who are willing to kill for their cause."

     In reply to Fritz, "tex" posted: "Fritz….you say this like it’s a bad thing? Maybe a bit of well organized terrorism is just what we need."

     "This happens in all cases where people are oppressed and lack representation," continued Fritz. "We will have gay and lesbian people strapping bombs to their chests and blowing up churches. All it will take is one or two more losses like this. If marriage equality is taken away in one of the landmark states, we will see domestic terrorism arise very quickly. … In 1991, I witnessed gay and lesbian activists setting fire to buildings and beating people with baseball bats in Los Angeles."

     "tex" reiterated: "Still not seeing this as a bad thing Fritz … [African gay activists] didn’t gain their civil rights through being passive."

     In addition to Barber, pro-family leaders Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth and Maggie Gallagher of the National Organization for Marriage were specifically named targets.

     Meanwhile, Michael Heath, former director of the Christian Civic League of Maine, was targeted by a direct death threat shortly after the passage of Question 1 last week. An anonymous caller telephoned the League, warning: "I am calling about Mr. Mike Heath, the Executive of your Christian Civic League of Maine. He thinks that gay people should have our rights revoked that we already have. Well I can tell him this – I’m a gay guy who owns guns, and he’s my next target." Law enforcement was immediately notified.

     Matt Barber commented: "All potential threats of terrorism and murder are very serious business. As we learned just last week, there are ideologically driven terrorists who walk among us. After passage of Proposition 8 in California we saw that many homosexual activists are capable of threats, vandalism and even violence. Those who either threaten or attempt to incite terrorism must be immediately brought to justice. Churches and Christian leaders around the country need to be on high alert. These threats of homosexual activist terrorism must be taken very seriously."

     Subsequently, WGME in Maine reported that "Marc Mutty from Stand for Marriage Maine says a threatening voicemail message was discovered Monday morning at campaign headquarters in which a female caller said, ‘You will be dead. Maybe not today, not tomorrow. But soon you’ll dead [sic].’"

     On Oct. 14 and 15, 2009 on the same blog mentioned in Liberty Counsel’s press release, JoeMyGod, stunningly vulgar comments were left following an article about Illinois Family Institute.  Vulgar and perverse language is used.

     It’s not just the homosexual blogs, however, where you can find vitriol and threats of domestic terrorism.

     Here’s a quote from a Dec. 2008 Newsweek blog:

     "I suggest we throw a pride parade at the whitehouse and everyone bring thier guns. We form a militia and get our gay rights by raiding the whitehouse and possibly burning it down or something. I mean **** we’ve been peaceful protesting for 40 years and forming a militia is in the bill of rights. As long as we keep being bit**es about this we’ll continue to be seen as bit**es. We’ve got to shoot out a few Govenors knee caps, kill a few cops, burn down a few churches. We could get it done this year."

     Posted by: Josh Sebring | December 11, 2008 at 08:59 AM

     This is just one of the many unsanctified voices of angry homosexuals who aggressively promote false, morally disordered, and destructive beliefs and who engage in volitional acts that devastate individual lives and destroy families.

     In an interview with the online journal Public Discourse, Princeton University Law Professor and staunch marriage defender Robert George had this to say about the campaign to destroy marriage. We must heed his advice:

     Robert George: Another and far more insidious and brutal way in which many advocates of sexual liberalism deploy cultural power in the cause of redefining marriage is by depicting their opponents as bigots. Across the country, they have pursued a strategy of intimidation against anyone who dares to dissent from their position in a public way. Their appalling treatment of Carrie Prejean is merely one example. Their relentless personal attacks on her were designed to send a clear message to others who aspire to succeed in any area of public life, from beauty pageants to careers in journalism and politics: "If you oppose us, if you have the temerity to express support for the conjugal conception of marriage, we will smear you as a rube and a bigot, make your life hell, and do our best to ruin you."

     After losing the Proposition 8 battle in California, the campaign of intimidation went into full swing. Anyone who contributed money to the Prop 8 effort or played any identifiable role in supporting it was targeted for intimidation. They were depicted as agents of intolerance and enemies of equality. Pressure was put on their employers to fire or discipline them. (I speak from personal experience here: the president of Princeton University, where I am a member of the faculty, was deluged with letters demanding action against me.) Boycotts were launched against their businesses. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (LDS) and its members, who were, as always, generous and active supporters of conjugal marriage, were made a particular target because they were perceived as an especially vulnerable religious minority. The LDS faithful were harassed, their church services were disrupted, and a grotesquely libelous and bigoted video ad depicting Mormon missionaries as home invaders was run against them.

     PD: Will the campaign of intimidation work?

     Robert George: Campaigns of intimidation succeed only if the victims of such campaigns permit themselves to be intimidated. They fizzle when people refuse to alter their behavior out of fear. As anyone who has ever confronted a school-yard bully knows, bullies are cowards. When their victims stand up to them, they fold like accordions. My advice to supporters of marriage who are targets of intimidation is this: make clear to the bullies that if they seek to intimidate you, your response will be to ratchet up your support of marriage by, for example, increasing your financial contributions to the pro-marriage cause, devoting more time to making phone calls to family members, friends, and members of your religious community, and doing other grassroots work on behalf of marriage. That is what I have personally done. Just as the campaign of intimidation will fail if we refuse to be intimidated, it will backfire if we decide to make it backfire by redoubling our pro-marriage efforts in the face of it.

     In the words of a prominent politician who says that though he supports civil unions he opposes same-sex "marriage": Yes, we can!

Was it just a “joke”?

‘GAY’ BLOGGER CALLS CHURCH-BOMB THREAT A ‘JOKE’:

Christian marriage-advocates notify authorities of threat

By Bob Unruh WorldNetDaily, November 9, 2009

     A homosexual blogger passed off as a "joke" a suggestion by a contributor to his website that there might be church bombings because of Christians’ refusal to support the homosexual lifestyle.

     But several individuals named in the column are taking the threat seriously.

     "That is what Fort Hood teaches us," said Peter LaBarbera, president of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality, referring to the attack on the Texas Army base by a Muslim officer that killed 13 people and wounded 28.

     LaBarbera was cited by name in the postings on the "joemygod" website run by homosexual advocate Joe Jervis.

     "When people are talking about violence to pro-family proponents, you have to take it seriously," LaBarbera said.

     LaBarbera and Matt Barber of Liberty Counsel, who also is an active supporter of biblical marriage, confirmed to WND they notified authorities of the threats.

     "The First Amendment gives you the right of free speech but it does not grant the right to claim you have a bomb in your luggage at the airport, it doesn’t give you the right to claim you have a bomb in a movie theater," Barber said. "It doesn’t protect saying you’ll shut up these Christians up by strapping bombs [on] and blowing up churches."

     The recent postings, taken down "temporarily," according to Jervis, came from "Fritz" and "Tex."

     Fritz’s comments came after voters in Maine last week made it the 31st out of 31 states to restrict marriage to one man and one woman. He wrote he was concerned about "gay and lesbian people" giving up on obtaining "equality," and there would follow "radicals who will begin to hunt down haters like LaBarbera and Gallagher," referring to Maggie Gallagher, a leading pro-family activist who runs the Institute for Marriage and Public Policy.

     "All is will take is a small group of radical zealots who are willing to kill for their cause," "Fritz" wrote. "This happens in all cases where people are oppressed and lack representation. Our president must wake up and prevent this from happening. Otherwise, we will end up like Israel and Palestine. We will have gay and lesbian people strapping bombs to their chests and blowing up churches."

     "Tex" responded, "You say this like it’s a bad thing? Maybe a bit of well organized terrorism is just what we need, er, I mean ‘civil disobedience.’"

     LaBarbera said it is ironic in the wake of the "hate crimes" law signed by President Obama that provides special protections to homosexuals that attacks immediately began targeting Christians.

     "It seems the more the gay movement achieves, the more hostile the activists become toward religious people," LaBarbera said. "They know the religious and moral people are the last impediment to their full agenda."

     But he said Fort Hood teaches that targets should not ignore online rantings. Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan wrote on the Internet of the conflict between his Muslim teachings and America’s war against terrorism before the attack Thursday.

     Barber said, "Anybody who is willing to make these types of comments, and suggest it is time for acts of terrorism against Christians because they have a disagreement with the homosexual lifestyle, we have to take it seriously, in the wake of what we saw at Fort Hood, Texas.

     "We now know the alleged perpetrator was making similar postings on various Islamofascist websites," he said.

     He cited another such statement that appeared earlier on another "gay" website. There, the forum participant said, "I suggest we throw a pride parade at the whitehouse and everyone bring thier (sic) guns. We form a militia and get our gay rights by raiding the whitehouse and possibly burning it down or something. … We’ve got to shoot out a few Govenors (sic) knee caps, kill a few cops, burn down a few churches. We could get it done this year."

     The latest statements followed by only a few days a threat reported by the Christian Civic League of Maine, which was a key player in the victory for traditional marriage in that state.

     The organization reported a caller stated, "I am calling about Mr. Mike Heath, the Executive of your Christian Civic League of Maine. He thinks that gay people should have our rights revoked that we already have. Well I can tell him this – I’m a gay guy who owns guns, and he’s my next target."

     While the blogsite statements were reported to the FBI, the telephone call was reported to the Augusta police, the league reported.

     In a followup, Jervis tried to laugh off the accusations.

     "The first [comment], by Fritz, expressed concern that any violence against anti-gay activists would HURT our cause," he wrote. "The second, by Tex, is clearly a joke.

     "Nevertheless, I’ve taken that post down for the time being, mostly to prevent your names from being re-posted on other wingnut sites. After I’ve thoroughly reviewed all the comments, it’ll go back up."

     He warned, "Courts have held that bloggers, newspapers, and other online forums are not responsible … for libelous or threatening comments made on their sites. But cases have been brought, although rarely successfully, against commenters whose identities can be determined."

     According to LaBarbera, the "gay" response to Maine’s vote for biblical marriage was the "terror" warning.

     "Liberty Counsel notified the FBI, which is investigating the matter," he confirmed.

     "Tex" even posted the following: "Still not seeing this as a bad thing Fritz."

     "All potential threats of terrorism and murder are very serious business. As we learned just last week, there are ideologically driven terrorists who walk among us. After passage of Proposition 8 in California we saw that many homosexual activists are capable of threats, vandalism and even violence. Those who either threaten or attempt to incite terrorism must be immediately brought to justice. Churches and Christian leaders around the country need to be on high alert. These threats of homosexual activist terrorism must be taken very seriously," Barber said.

     Some two years ago, after voters in Florida, Arizona and California made their states the 28th, 29th and 30th states to protect traditional marriage, there were similar threats on the same website.

     "Burn their f—ing churches to the ground, and then tax the charred timbers," wrote "World O Jeff" on the website only hours after California officials declared Proposition 8 had been approved by a margin of 52 percent to 48 percent.

     On a blog, "Tread" wrote, "I hope the No on 8 people have a long list and long knives."

     Another contributor to the site said, "While financially I supported the Vote No, and was vocal to everyone and anyone who would listen, I have never considered being a violent radical extremist for our equal rights. But now I think maybe I should consider becoming one. Perhaps that is the only thing that will affect the change we so desperately need and deserve."

     A contributor identifying himself as "Joe" said, "I swear, I’d murder people with my bare hands this morning."

     At that time, on the "Queerty" website, "Stenar" asked, "Can someone in CA please go burn down the Mormon temples there, PLEASE. I mean seriously. DO IT."

     "I’m going to give them something to be f—ing scared of. … I’m a radical who is now on a mission to make them all pay for what they’ve done," wrote "Jonathan."